Clydesdale Media Podcast

Everyday we take a breath from the busy workday to take a break, hang out with friends and talk about the world of sports, entertainment and specifically CrossFit.  Today we revisit the Hall of Fame discussion, What is WFP thinking? and As always whatever comes up with Cory.

What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

All right, everybody.

It's been a minute.

WFP puts out workout number one.

Time for the smear campaign.

Let's talk about it.

I love the chase and the hunt,

and I set the pace when I'm running.

I always take what I want,

and I always give it one hundred.

Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.

Play the game like it's nothing.

I'm always thankful for something.

Don't take for granted, stay humble.

Now wake up!

It's time to look at the enemy.

Look in the mirror if he is no

friend to me.

Train Tala says it's lunch time.

What's going on everybody?

How you doing buddy?

I'm doing fantastic, brother, man.

I am doing fantastic.

Ready for the schmear campaign.

The schmear that a bagel with some

schmear.

It's a bagel with a schmear campaign.

Yeah.

Top.

I need, I let me, I gotta,

I'll pull it up on Instagram so we

can see what we're talking about.

Um,

WFP released event one yesterday.

It's making the rounds of discussion to

say the least.

We're going to talk about it now.

Bring it up.

Let's see.

There it is.

Dang it.

Hit the wrong button.

There we go.

So I am slow today.

Here we go.

We got Amanda in the chat.

We got dense in the chat up,

up at Dayton.

It's all already.

And we got Craig.

We got Mike can train to olive.

So the workout here it is.

Are we ready?

pro one a and one b five hundred

meter swim time cap ten minutes in the

first part second part thirty four thirty

two forty calorie ski hundred twenty five

meter swim thirty two forty calorie bike

hundred twenty five meter swim thirty two

forty calorie ski time cap sixteen minutes

In between,

you get a two minute rest from ten

to twelve.

I'm assuming it is a running clock.

So you really only have a four minute

cap for the second part.

What?

So Carolyn actually sent this to me and

said, wow,

this is this makes no sense to have

two swimming events.

And I said, well, if it's half points,

like if it's fifty fifty and it equals

one one hundred point event at the end,

then it's the same as if it was

just a single swim.

Right.

But apparently it's not.

Down here at the bottom,

I don't know if you can see this.

Workout one A is worth a hundred points.

Workout B is worth a hundred points.

So this, and look,

and if you look our,

look at just these Yonikoski and Lucy

Campbell.

Oh, let's go.

Of course, Pat Vellner, not psyched.

That's like surprise, surprise, surprise.

Yeah.

So you can see, like,

Lucy and Yona are going to kill this.

Oh, yeah.

Yonkosi's going to smash this.

Matt Vellner is going to have his water

wings on and hope to finish.

So I really think this is...

Craig is saying cool event,

maybe a cool event, but it,

a swim event in a nine event weekend

that counts for two,

a hundred points makes no freaking sense.

No freaking sense.

Um, and, and here's what I want to,

I'm going to get nitpicky and I'm going

to get a little swimmy here because of

my background in swimming.

Here we go in, in swimming.

There is no five hundred meter swim.

Yeah, no, that's across.

It doesn't exist.

There is a four hundred meter swim.

There's a five hundred yard swim.

Yeah, that's what we had at.

NFC a couple years ago.

But there is no five hundred meter swim.

So then you take you take the five

hundred meter swim.

In my prime,

when I trained five hours a day,

six days a week,

and this was my specialty,

five hundred meter swim would probably

take me five and a half,

five and a half.

And I'm guessing because it isn't a real

event.

So five and a half to five forty

five ish peak at the peak point of

my season.

And that is a guy who is swimming,

swimming only five hours a day,

six days a week.

The time cap on this is ten minutes.

I saw that just now,

and I'm thinking in my head.

Other than Yona and Lucy, and maybe if,

and I don't even think she's there,

Grace Walton, who's making this cap?

It is in a pool, everybody,

just so you know.

It is in a pool.

You're not going to swim outside in

Copenhagen in December.

Although if you did,

it would make this event a whole lot

more interesting.

So the time cap on this is absolutely

asinine.

essentially this is a ten minute swim for

at least half the field for distance right

then they get two minutes rest and hey

now you're fatigued and now you gotta do

another two fifty let's get back in the

water and the time cap on that is

probably only four minutes and you gotta

ski in between and bike in between these

things

Two meter swim.

Like that's in my prime.

And I'm saying prime,

like that's like two, twenty each.

No, no.

For the whole thing.

Two, twenty, two,

twenty for the two hundred and twenty five

meter swims.

Yeah.

Two hundred twenty for one hundred twenty

five.

Yeah.

So you have over half the time is

in the swim and you've got to do

the ski and the bike in between.

This makes no sense.

Unless this is five K measuring at the

games in twenty twenty three.

It's a five hundred foot swim.

It's right.

I mean.

I mean, if it was a yard pool,

I'd say you got some shots at some

people finishing this.

But at a meter pool, no way.

Not happening.

And generally,

if you're swimming a meter pool,

it's fifty meters each way.

So you're not even getting a rest for

fifty.

And that's ten laps of a fifty meter

pool.

If it's a twenty-five meter pool...

which do exist they're just not as as

popular um but if it's a twenty five

meter pool you're talking twenty laps in

ten minutes which is a lot fyi uh

yeah yeah the uh the pool where i

swim is twenty five yeah generally if it's

twenty five it's yards

I'm saying, but back and forth,

back and forth, back and forth,

back and forth, back and forth.

It's a lot of transitions,

and if you don't know how to flip

turn,

you're going to lose time every single

time.

How many of these people are going to

have enough breath control to be able to

flip a turn?

You're going to have five people that can

do a flip turn.

If.

That's what I'm getting at.

There's so much more that goes into it

than just saying, well,

let's do five hundred meters.

Let's call it good.

Sean, I'm agreeing that it's meters.

I'm agreeing that it's meters.

And that's what's making these time caps

impossible.

Oh,

it must be a twenty five meter pool

because they have bike and ski on separate

sides.

So they have to do one twenty five.

It's definitely a twenty five meter pool.

Yeah.

So the pool like we had at Legends,

because they literally just did almost the

exact same workout at Desert City Classic

last weekend.

I was just looking at it yesterday.

They biked fifteen calories,

fifteen calories, like fifteen,

twelve or something like that.

did a seventy five.

So down, back in and down skier,

don't know the side down,

back and down at three times.

That was the whole swim event.

Yeah,

but they didn't have to do a five

hundred before that.

No, they did not.

That's what I'm getting at.

One piece of that.

It's not a bad test.

I don't understand the five hundred

beforehand.

Like, what is that?

What is that there for?

It is going to completely fatigue three

quarters of the field.

They're going to get no rest and

And,

and then they have to do this other

thing.

It's, it makes no sense to me anyway.

No, no.

And then having it, like you said,

having them both be a hundred points.

So like you are,

you're putting out on both of these.

You can't like,

I don't say sandbag one of them,

but you know what I'm saying?

You can't,

Um,

I'm not gonna go a little bit of

just a distance swim.

I'll be better on the machine with the,

the one, twenty-five in between.

You can't do that.

Like both of these are worth a hundred

points after there's just seven more

events.

So you have to do what you can

to get as maximize your points.

Uh, Ken Walters,

Pat Vellner is going to have his water

wings on and hope to finish Clydesdale.

That's why Jenny's here.

Lito, back with us.

Nice seeing you, Lito.

What's up, Lito?

Is Vellner canceling his trip?

I mean,

if you're a Vellner or you're someone who

is not a great swimmer,

to start off the weekend with a two

hundred point event that is basically all

swimming.

Yeah, because for these guys,

the ski and the bike is irrelevant.

And I think there's confusion about the

double points.

The double points aren't per event.

If you finish first,

typically that gets you...

I don't even know what the point structure

is anymore.

Five hundred points, say,

for winning tour stop one.

Winning this tour stop,

you get a thousand points to the overall

standings.

It's not event by event.

you get double points it's at the end

of the weekend where you finish earns you

double points toward your season total

i'll just go with that i believe you

he could just skip the event and save

the energy i mean let's let's be honest

here the man is uh

known for digging himself a hole on the

first event of a particular weekend so

right there yeah not psyched not psyched

so yeah i not off to a great

start over there not the only i'm assuming

that's the only one released so far uh

the only one i saw i'll go

Yep,

that's the only one released on their IG

at this point.

Yeah, Shay's got a point.

What's the minimum work requirement?

Jump in the pool?

That does not have it on this at

all.

So not only is it a two-hundred-point

event, you have to travel to Sweden.

this event and then travel back to

copenhagen for the rest of the weekend so

you ever caught yourself in a rainstorm or

in a in possibly in snow i'd imagine

that probably happens on a frozen road as

well and uh you were going to kind

of start to skid out a little bit

and then you over correct it back in

the other direction this feels like what

that is

Oh, we can do swimming better.

Watch this.

We're going to do events.

Back to back.

With a two minute break in between.

I just don't see where it makes any

damn sense.

I love swimming like that was my jam,

right?

Too much.

This is way too much.

Way too much.

There's a comment up here like Lucy

Campbell's got to be out of her mind.

Yeah.

And she's got to be.

James Sprague.

I'm guessing they'll have a long run as

well.

Poor Patrick Vellner.

That's probably the second event.

They'll do that and then they have to

run back to Copenhagen.

That wouldn't surprise me.

Like, all right, Pat,

you got out of the water.

We're going to take a hundred more points

away from you.

You got to run back to Copenhagen.

We'll see you when you get there.

think the problem is you have to take

a ferry so he just has to run

laps on the ferry while it's going it's

going it don't matter if it gets broken

whatever what you make and if you miss

the ferry god help you because nobody else

will get their ride in iceberg across the

across the whatever body of water that is

your big paddle just like your stand-up

paddleboard oh

In their defense, oh gosh, Lito, please.

There's been back-to-back running events

and erg events that are worth doubling

points, such as row run at NorCal,

where the row was scored separately.

But this is a specialist event.

This is not just monostructural.

This is specialist.

Yeah.

The machines don't matter.

They don't.

They don't matter at all.

They're all going to be about the same

cadence, about the same, you know,

run the herbs at about the same watts,

whatever you want to call it.

And they're going to get in the water

and that's where it's going to make a

difference.

It's an AMRAP and that it's true.

Unless you're, you're,

you're James or Yona or Lucy.

This is, this is an AMRAP.

That is a fact.

I'm sure they're probably all

transferring.

I was just making that up.

Didn't you hear one more?

We just make this stuff up as a

smear campaign.

Smear.

Yeah.

It's a smear campaign.

It was funny because Carolyn's coming to

me like there's no way there should be

two swimming events that both are a

hundred points.

I'm looking at it as these time caps

are ridiculous.

Yeah.

Like in my prime,

I would have to push at an all

out pace to finish at like six minutes.

And you were a swimmer.

That's all you did.

Right.

And that training five hours a day,

six days a week,

all out pace to hit six minutes.

And then, so it, it did, you know,

not training like that and training other

things.

You're talking seven, eight minutes.

with maybe two minutes rest,

and that's only the best swimmers out

there.

That's not the other people that just swim

to survive and to just middle in these

things.

Agreed that it's a specialist because we

don't do it very often,

but since when is bike or rowing a

more functional skill than swimming

speaking in general here?

I'm not saying that it's more functional

by any stretch of the imagination,

but the machines are the machines.

Everybody trains them all the time.

Yeah.

I just don't.

I don't see it.

I would put the over-under in people

finishing this at ten.

Oh, yeah.

And I'd take the under.

Yeah.

Just would, dude.

Finishing the worst part.

For sure.

Absolutely.

So, that's that.

I also wanted to show you this,

a civic pride here.

Did you see that Rogue,

have you seen this video of their new

expansion?

I have not.

I need to turn on my notification for

Rogue.

That's a big building, sorry.

Yeah, so this is what exists right now.

In downtown Columbus.

So you can see the skyline back here,

right?

Yeah.

If you look behind, right in here,

and I know if you're on your phone

or something, it's dirt now back here.

They have demolished everything behind the

building because that's where the

expansion is going to take place.

When they are done,

they're going to have over a million

square foot of space inside their

building.

Is that not freaking cool?

Good for y'all.

Good for them.

This block used to be a steel mill

that made bearings called Timken.

And the whole community around it worked

at that facility.

so when that that factory shut down the

whole area like became dilapidated and and

broken down when rogue moved their

facility here they bought the whole block

they've built this facility and it has

grown since they've put this this facility

there it is phenomenal and this little

part like up here this little corner

This is their showroom on the front here,

and this is their store right there.

That's where I would like to go play.

And the rest of this is all factory.

That is where I would like to go

play.

Oh, we use Timken bearings, yeah?

They used to be made where Rogue sits

now.

Rob's a helicopter mechanic, so yeah,

he probably does use Timken bearings.

So, yeah.

And where this parking lot is right out

here,

that's where the Rogue Invitational was in

twenty nineteen.

The outdoor part,

the indoor part was in the factory.

They built stands inside the factory like

that is on a floor.

It's already a big ass building.

Yeah.

Look at these buildings right here.

These are theirs right here.

They even own this restaurant right here.

Did not know Bill and Kitty was in

the restaurant business.

Well, Bill, before COVID,

was going to open like a barbecue because

he loves to smoke meat.

And he was going to open a barbecue.

So here's the drone at the side.

So you can see here where all the

demolition has happened.

Yes, Lord.

So the front of the,

up here in front is Fifth Avenue.

This here is Second Avenue.

So now they own like three blocks.

What are they putting in the new space?

Did I miss it?

So when Rogue initially was in Columbus,

they were in five buildings.

When they built this facility,

they consolidated those five buildings

into this one.

Because of the growth over since twenty

twenty,

they are now in four buildings in Columbus

again.

Including this one.

So they are building this expansion to

consolidate back down to one building.

Isn't that insane?

That's a lot of bumper plays.

I showed you like the skylines over here.

Over here, this is Ohio State University.

It's right there.

The Ohio State University.

Yeah.

There it is.

Yep.

So that's, they're kind of like, you know,

and Katie calls games for them.

So it's a short drive.

And they actually live up in here.

So you got four to go.

It's going to be like a whole complex

type thing,

like a self-sustaining neighborhood of

sorts.

Dude, what they do is like unreal.

They like,

they order food in a couple of times

a week for every staff member.

They have, they have thousand people.

They really take care of the people.

Damn rich people creating jobs and

cleaning up a rundown area.

I know.

How dare they?

How dare they?

All these Ohio State fans.

No, Rob's not an Ohio State fan.

He's just a football fan.

Like Hershey PA.

I love it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Only it doesn't smell like chocolate.

Well...

but yeah I thought they put this out

this morning I thought it was cool to

kind of show like look at all these

loading docks dude across the back that's

what I'm saying man like I mean obviously

never seen it in person but just knowing

how big cars are knowing how big eighteen

wheeler trailers are looking at this

picture and going holy smokes that is a

ginormous building isn't that awesome

it smells like rubber plate steel and sex

appeal yeah got to love it got to

love it got to love it i said

dude that they sell sarah coat um goes

on all their barbells now oh that uh

speaking of that did you see pedro's

interview with uh uh what's his face from

rx margaret

I did not.

They are giving... He's giving away...

You gotta go comment on the actual video.

A Cerakoted...

the handles are cerakoted when they're new

uh the rx evo whatever the same one

i got but it's cerakoted i was like

i need that rope one year where every

month they came out with a like a

flavor of the month uh and they did

that one when they were sponsoring us they

gave away like one of that the color

that came out each month

And it was based on like whatever holidays

were in that month.

Like February was pink for Valentine's

day.

You know, March was green for St.

Patty's day, things like that.

So yeah, they're good people over there.

Yeah.

It seemed like it seemed like it,

they had other people working for him,

dude.

Like they,

I had never used one until legends last

year.

They had a booth set up and I

went and tried it out and I was,

I would, I,

I was sold soon as soon as really

knowledgeable.

A lady was looking at me,

watched me jump rope,

made some suggestions,

watched me jump rope again and was like,

here, try this one.

And like, so got me properly sized.

And I was like, okay.

And you look back.

I love it.

What's funny is I can't use an Evo

rope because I spin it too fast already

for me to get double unders.

They actually, I had to use a,

what they call the buff rope.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's a little bit heavier,

a little thicker,

so it would spin a little bit slower

because I whip too fast.

So that got me to slow down to

get my double-unders.

It's a wild problem to have.

Isn't it?

What's cool is if you go and you

talk to them,

they can pinpoint that stuff like,

And when they're at events,

and if you need help with double-unders or

anything like that,

they are there to help for free.

They'll hand you a rope, say jump rope,

and they'll correct your stuff right

there.

It's amazing.

It really, really is.

Dave and Susan are the couple that own

RxMark here.

Dave and Susan Newman,

they're the best people ever.

That was good stuff.

Humble brag.

It's not a brag.

It's not the right technique,

but they couldn't get me to slow it

down other than to put a heavier rope

in my hand.

It's only crazy if it doesn't work.

Yeah.

I mean, bottom line,

it's only crazy if it doesn't work.

I was just thinking that.

Poor Scott has to slow down dubs.

easy there killer my jumps are not slowing

down my jumps are not slowing down i

just whip too fast trying to get that

rope underneath there you want to go

slower i'll tell you what get you a

get you a weighted rope most of us

have the opposite problem right see i'm

just weird i'm just weird

Uh, one Oh one, one Oh, Oh,

Oh one.

I always do double unders with heavier

rope.

I like those better than the speed rope.

I can do them with a speed rope

as well.

Well, that's a humble brag.

That's personal preference.

I know people that,

that don't like speed ropes.

They're like,

we'd rather have the heavy one because

they like to feel right.

Like the base base model of the RX

rope.

You can get all different kinds of ropes

on it.

Right.

And they have like,

the one I have is a,

it's like really thick.

It's literally called the buff rope.

And then they have it all the way

down to just the wire.

That's what I got.

I don't need to look like I was

in a slave movie.

Just beat yourself up and shit.

I'm going to tell you right now.

I got a heavy rope.

And heavy rope with heavy handles as well.

And if you want to look like you

just got out of the passion or roots

or whatever else is go ahead and start

learning on that.

That shit hurts a lot.

Um, yes.

Anyone that swam five to six hours a

day is a little off competitor or not.

Did you not go to school or have

someone do your homework?

You hockey people are just as bad.

I got up at four thirty a.m.,

went to school at five,

swam for two hours,

went to school all day,

went immediately to practice after swim

another two and a half and then did

off deck work.

Just lean muscle mass building,

which I might say that's like that's like

you.

You just regular training type shit.

And then a couple days a week,

I would lifeguard immediately after that

to make some money.

And my mom or my coach would bring

me food to eat,

and I would do my homework on the

deck of the pool some nights.

And if I'm being truly honest,

I was not the best student in the

world, so probably didn't even do that.

I did not stay eligible.

Okay.

So you finished fifty dubs with twenty

five jumps.

No, I wish.

I do like ropes,

but cool whip speed ropes is the fastest

rope in the game.

The best rope no one has ever heard

of.

I've actually heard of it.

Jesse Coolman did social media for us at

the games in twenty twenty two.

And she is her.

I think it's her brother that owns that

company.

Man, that's an exhausting schedule.

Yeah.

I would imagine so.

Hockey is like Chad.

Shoot a thousand pucks, call it a day.

You never build up stamina and skated?

I would imagine most hockey players have

been skating since they were three years

old.

I mean,

I understand the sport is different.

I don't know.

I shouldn't be talking.

I don't know shit about ice skating or

hockey for that matter.

Yeah.

Louisiana kids don't know nothing about

ice skating.

Nope.

And I heard they were putting a,

there's an ice hockey rink in Baton Rouge.

You guys tried on sweat and spit.

A hundred percent.

But there's a,

there's actually an ice hockey rink in

Baton Rouge.

And the first time I heard about it,

I said, there's a what?

Where?

Where?

like yeah they built the ice hockey ring

and i was like for who i did

not grow up running around outside and

going skate on frozen ponds why because

there were no frozen ponds to skate on

or skates for that matter roller skate

sure absolutely but even then like street

hockey wasn't a thing that wasn't that

wasn't a deal at all yeah i'm going

to share one more thing before we move

on and then then we can talk about

whatever

But Susan Prevosnak sent me a reminder

yesterday that Mike Egan broke a world

record yesterday.

And it deserves to be shouted out.

He tried to break the record for longest

wheelchair run in twenty four hours.

And he went one hundred and fifty two

point three six miles for the new world

record.

Talk about jaw dropping.

Bro.

Oh, hundred and fifty two miles.

Don't forget the point three six.

Excuse me.

And a point three six.

Super important.

Yeah.

What what was the old record that we

know?

It was like he blew it away.

I think it was like one eighteen or

something like that.

Oh,

so he didn't he didn't just go like

one nineteen.

And I think it was his record and

his goal was it.

I knew he like blew it out of

the water.

And I think it was his record and

his goal was to get one fifty.

Hey, you know what?

You set a goal.

You look at it and you go,

that's what I'm doing.

That is what I'm doing.

That is insane.

So insane.

Hey, Lana.

Do they test for PEDs in that?

I think he's competed in the CrossFit

Games.

I think he's done other things around the

space.

This is just a goal that he had,

and he trained for this.

And if you look at him,

he doesn't look like he's juiced up.

And I would think that he would not

want to be heavier.

You do not want to push more weight

than you need to.

To be fair,

Lance Armstrong also did not look like he

was juiced up.

That was different stuff, though.

I have absolutely no idea.

I just know he got popped or whatever.

He never popped.

That's the key.

Really?

He just finally admitted.

Oh, he just finally admitted.

He finally just said, you know what?

Yeah.

uh and mike devito was just teasing uh

meredith my hands would be torn to shreds

by the end of that yeah i think

you'd have to train that too you'd have

to build up the calluses he's got gloves

on meredith i don't know what you worried

about for uh people had grips on during

atalantia did you see hayley adams in the

blood dripping

That image is one of several that has

burned into my brain for the rest of

my life.

Yes, I definitely saw that.

Speaking of Haley Adams,

along with her back after the ruck run

at the games,

was that the following year or the year

before?

Claire,

I've had the opportunity to train with

Lance.

He's still a freak.

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

I think that's the thing that's like –

I was thinking about this.

I've thought about this for a week when

the last games person,

the Masters woman that tested positive,

and we make a big deal about it,

right?

There are people that are testing positive

in the NFL like all the time now.

They get a six-game suspension or

nine-game suspension,

and it's not even talked about on

SportsCenter.

It might be on a crawl.

It's just something that is, right?

And we just move on.

And you've never seen the Lance Armstrong

documentary.

The crazy thing is he tried to do

it natural for so long.

And he kept just missing the championship

of the Tour de France.

And everybody else was doing it.

And he's trying to beat these steroid

freaks and these people using...

They spun the blood,

whatever that's called.

Human growth hormone and spinning the

blood.

he and he kept not beating them and

he just finally said if i'm gonna win

i'm gonna have to do it yeah he

had he admitted it and he admitted he

admits it in the documentary too he he

has definitely admitted he just never got

he never tested positive

EPO.

Blood doping.

Yeah.

You spin the blood cells out and then

you put them back into your body.

And so you can get more oxygen to

your way.

And so I was very conflicted watching the

documentary because the whole sport is

dirty in cycling.

The entire sport.

Now, does that condone him doing it?

No.

No, of course not.

But as a human,

I could see the only way I have

a shot is to do it,

to join him.

Knowing you have greatness inside of you,

knowing that you can do it,

you're trying to do it the right way,

and you're watching literally everybody

else do it the opposite way.

It's got to be...

demeaning and like one of the hardest

things on the face of the planet to,

to accomplish knowing that if I can,

if I just do what they're doing,

I'm going to beat the shit out of

all of them.

And I'm not saying I would make that

jump and do it.

I'm just saying I can understand the brain

that would.

Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

I can understand looking at it and going,

yeah, if you can't beat them doing like,

and slowly realizing that it's not just

that dude, it's not just this dude.

It's not just this dude.

It's all of these dudes.

Like that's gotta be,

it's gotta weigh on me.

I mean, it has to.

Well, and in the documentary,

they do a great job showing like,

cause he finished like second,

finished third in the tour de France.

It wasn't like he was finishing eighth and

twelfth.

Right.

Just kept getting out sprinted at the end

on every,

like every single year he would be winning

for stage after stage.

And then at the very end,

they would out sprint him and beat him.

Howie,

I would juice to it's taking money out

of your pocket.

Yeah,

but the damage it did to him after

like now he is a he is he

went from one of the most revered athletes

in the history of sport to an outcast.

That's that's what kind of blows him.

There's different standards for different

sports.

Like,

people are popping left and right in the

NFL,

and they just go away for six weeks

and come back, and nobody says anything,

right?

And nobody cares.

Like, I got a notification,

but I don't know where I saw it

this morning,

I think before I went to coach.

Like, oh, former LSU player,

now playing in the NFL,

popped for whatever use.

I don't remember what it said.

And it was a footnote.

It was just like, oh, yeah, this dude,

he used to play for the Tigers,

just got popped.

And that was it.

He didn't even mention his name.

It was just former LSU player.

And I was like, oh, all right.

David Reed,

twenty of twenty one podium finishers in

the Tour de France from ninety nine to

two thousand five have been directly tied

to doping through admissions.

That's and that's the time where Lance

was.

Yeah.

Right.

And that they point that out in the

documentary.

That's insane.

That's all of them.

So it wasn't like this guy and that

guy.

It was everybody.

Let me put this out there.

This is my own personal opinion.

If it's twenty out of twenty one,

it's twenty one out of twenty one because

that's it's through admissions.

Right.

So one guy is just sitting there going,

oh, no.

Yeah.

He's the guy still tied up to the

chair with the one light bulb hanging over

his head,

getting beat with a phone book and still

hasn't given it up.

Not giving it up.

No, no.

Like they,

they fix it and start going with the

pliers on his fricking on his thumbnail.

And he's like, wouldn't me, wouldn't me.

Yes, it was.

Isn't that wild how like in CrossFit,

like the minute someone pops, it's,

The biggest travesty in the world.

They should be gone forever.

Ricky should never be allowed to come

back.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And in football, it's like, yeah, okay.

Will my team be able to make it

through the six games without them?

And then when he gets back,

we'll be better.

And look, and don't do it again.

Right.

Not a problem.

Or don't get caught again.

Yeah, that's what that means.

That's what that means.

That's what I'm with right there.

But that's what we're saying, Winter.

There are sports where it doesn't even

damage your reputation.

I think she's talking about just like in

our space.

I am terrified of him because I have

absolutely no idea what it's going to do

to me long term.

I'm forty years old, dude.

I got a long time to go and

I do not need to be like you

see, you know,

like all these giant bodybuilders that

were on all of this shit back in

the eighties, nineties,

two thousands and whatnot.

They can barely walk now.

Right.

I'm not messing with none of that shit,

dude.

Like, I don't want that in my life.

I don't.

If I win.

Cool.

If I make it.

my own merit cool if not i'm not

there's i can't bring myself to do it

there's no possible way well and those

athletes in bodybuilding are put they're

they're the extreme level they're the ones

doing the hair horse steroids and they're

putting so much mass on their body that

it just can't take the weight right that's

why they're walking around the way they

are it's not like the steroid comes in

and deteriorate your joints your body

wasn't made to carry

eight, twenty eight inch biceps, right?

Lightweight.

Oh, yeah, that's another good.

Miss Olive,

I don't think another person will pop and

make a comeback like Ricky did.

Maybe it was his accent or is,

but I doubt that will ever happen again.

I don't know.

We'll see.

I think harder today.

Oh, man.

What was his name?

That's when I said he was the Propecia

he was using.

Phil Toon?

Phil Toon.

Phil Toon's a good example, dude.

Phil Toon is not Ricky Mack.

Phil Toon popped.

Phil Toon popped and said, all right,

now I'm going to lean in.

And yeah,

he just went completely in the opposite

direction.

He was like, here we go.

You want to know about stacks?

Keep it a secret.

Yeah.

Buy my e-book now.

He leaned all the way into it.

I like what Olive's saying.

People were freaking out when Sha'Carri

Richardson tested for marijuana and she's

a track star, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

When was the last time you've looked at

marijuana and said, well,

that's a performance enhancing drug?

That's what I'm saying, dude.

Why is that a thing?

Why is that a thing?

She is not...

hitting the bone so she could run a

nine second hundred meter or whatever she,

whatever, how fast she, you know,

I don't even know what,

what race she runs, but she's, uh,

like it's not,

it's not performance enhancing.

A relaxed muscle is a fast muscle.

Yeah.

But the bag of Doritos is air drag

when you're running down the running.

Yeah.

It's hard to run with five donuts in

your hand.

I'm going to tell you that right now.

Yeah.

Spiking on down the thing.

I don't understand that one.

I don't get it.

I really don't get it.

The banning of marijuana blows my mind

completely.

Not that I'm advocating that everybody

should be on it by any stretch of

the imagination,

but it is not a performance enhancing drug

by any stretch of the imagination.

asthma medication in skiing is a big thing

as well.

Well, good.

I have tons of asthma medicine because I

have asthma.

So maybe I should take up skiing.

Scott called me the next minute.

Look out, here I come.

That's good shit.

I think that's why the NFL stopped testing

for marijuana.

Actually,

where the NFL got caught in is that

marijuana has been shown to have benefits

for CTE.

Yeah.

And CTE is a bigger issue for the

NFL than weed smoking.

And if weed smoking is helping CTE,

then by all means, toke it up, guys.

Yeah.

Yeah,

with Philip Mike's comment right there.

Yeah.

If weed would have been a PED,

I would have earned a full scholarship to

college.

I got a full ride.

One hundred percent.

Same, Mike.

Same.

I'd have been full ride, full.

Like they'd have been paying me to go

at that point.

One hundred percent.

You see Olivia's five hundred pound squat.

No, I am not.

Which Olivia?

I saw a chick do a five hundred

pound squat.

Olivia Reeves.

Yeah, I did see that.

Who is Olivia Reeves?

Power lifter, if I'm not mistaken.

The video is insane because she's got like

nine billion plates on it.

She's an Olympic lifter.

And I don't see the squat.

I just saw it yesterday or day before.

Something like that.

But it was bananas to watch.

It looked like me squatting two hundred.

Saw four fifty one for two.

She just went and popped one back up.

Smile on her face.

And reacted.

She's twenty two.

No, not that.

But I mean, there's four eighty four.

That's not it.

It's her from the front.

That looks like work.

The one that her five hundred.

Her five hundred look like I'm telling

you, it didn't look like that.

Yeah, I don't I don't see it, dude.

Maybe it's in her story.

Nope.

She had her story on.

Somebody shared it.

But yeah, it's her from the front,

trying to freestand the squat rack.

And like Lito says, no knee sleeves,

full depth, and it's just back up.

Racked it.

It looked like if I had had two

hundred pounds on the bar and just

Scott didn't entertain my bait on the

Fikowski comment.

I didn't see the Fikowski comment.

He said that there's a lot of comments

coming in here, guys.

Yeah.

He basically said that Fikowski looks like

Gumby since he stopped competing.

So clearly that means he was on something

while he was competing.

Hmm.

They also stopped training, dude.

A lot.

Doug said he sent you a DM.

That was ESPNW that had it.

The W.

Not to be confused with the Ojo.

Yeah, that looks hard.

Can I just say,

I hate those squat racks.

We had those in my high school when

I played football.

And trying to hit those.

Yeah.

Scott,

just the fact that she's got five hundred

pounds on that squat rack.

Like.

Look, just.

Yep.

Wow.

That's terrible.

Yeah.

Yeah.

mine wasn't that easy i hit a five

hundred in high school one time and i

was trying to get there a couple years

ago and the most i got to is

four sixty seven yeah maybe the uh

My last one was like four,

fifteen or something like that,

and it did not look like that.

There was a whole lot more of me

trying to fight out the bottom,

fight through the sticky part,

trying to get it back up.

Barbell was working harder than her.

Yeah.

She doesn't get any whip at the bottom

and coming up, though.

It doesn't really start whipping until it

gets back onto the rack.

Yeah.

I'm more likely to weigh five hundred than

to lift five hundred.

I deadlifted five hundred once.

You understand?

And it looked way harder than it did

for her to back squat just now.

And that's how I met your mother.

Frida, if the bar didn't dance,

I would be sus that they were painted

plates.

Painted plates.

through that.

So I was brave enough to put painted

plates on a video on the ESPNW that

they knew was going to be on everywhere.

God bless them for that.

imagine oh and her face is like beet

red at the top she made it look

easy but it was you could tell it

was not oh yeah i was having that

conversation with uh somebody this morning

that like a lot of things that people

make look easy or anything but easy like

you see it you see people going on

walking on their hands and like just

flying down the thing and they're like oh

it looks so easy it's not you've got

upside down trying to breathe while

walking on your hands it's taxing so

So my buddy and I would do,

they used to have this night before

Thanksgiving competition at a local gym

here.

So the Wednesday before Thanksgiving,

three workouts, just like bang, bang,

bang, waterfall style.

And there was a workout where you had

to do like a wall-facing handstand hold

while your partner did wall balls.

Oh, right.

Every time, like, to breathe upside down,

doing wall balls and then going upside

down so your body can go for a

while, it is nearly impossible.

Now,

I know I'm a bigger guy and I'm

holding a lot up there, but damn.

You're just holding a handstand, like,

after a while.

And by a while, I mean, like,

fifteen to twenty seconds.

Your breathing gets labored.

You're doing a whole lot more work than

you ever expected you would do.

And it's because your body was not

designed to...

Rest.

Upside down.

And you realize that wall balls are slow.

Yeah.

There's really no way to speed them up.

Gravity only brings the ball back down so

fast.

Gravity works.

It's constant, as it turns out.

I know that's a wild concept for most

people to understand,

but having to hold a handstand while

somebody else does anything,

or just hold something.

Like we...

I had one,

I forget what it was for,

but you had to pick up deadlift and

just hold the bar while somebody was doing

something else.

That fucking sucks.

That is fun for about ten seconds.

And then you're like, hey, bro,

I'm going to need you to hurry up.

I need you to hurry up.

I always hated those partner workouts

where you had to hold something.

Hang on a bar, upside down,

hold a deadlift.

This is not getting any lighter.

Speaking of competitions,

thoughts on French throwdown reserving

half the field for the Europeans.

I'm okay with it because it's only half.

The other half,

anybody around the world can come.

I actually think it's a good strategic

move to let hometown people out on the

floor to compete,

to bring more crowd to the event,

to watch their people.

And the fact that they get to go

up against maybe some of the better

athletes in the world is pretty cool.

I just don't like it when it's a

hundred percent competitive.

Yeah,

they just strictly geofenced it and said

just Europeans, whatever.

That I probably had a bit of an

issue with, but half, I like that.

Those type of partner workouts turn

friends into enemies.

Yeah.

Friendlies.

John George, not true.

Have you seen how fast those High Rocks

people do wall balls?

It's a lot easier if you don't do

all the rep.

Yeah.

Not half the rep.

It takes half the time.

Takes half the time.

Don't try to understand it, Tristan.

Just take a deep breath and move on,

dude.

Yeah.

You're not,

you're not going to make sense out of

it.

Every single thing, every single year,

something comes up that either doesn't

make sense or, or whatever,

whatever the case may be.

I guess.

You're combining years.

We don't know that the Open is a

requirement this year.

We haven't seen that part of the rulebook

yet.

All we've seen is what semifinals are

saying.

We don't have CrossFit's requirement to go

to the games that you have to finish

anywhere in the top whatever in the Open

like it did last year.

That has not been released yet.

official we got what the semifinals are

telling semifinals to tell us we still

don't have a rule book yet either which

is unsurprising but george you talking

about uh joe linton on jason girl podcast

i don't know i didn't i didn't watch

that whole thing i've watched enough joe

linton in the last few weeks and i

just can't anymore

I've been watching everything that comes

up in relation to the Masters just to

get the best look,

try to figure out what it's going to

look like whenever it comes time.

If I see one of them on,

I'll go watch it.

Lito, Barbell's been posted that,

but yeah, fair.

That's also what the French Throwdown told

me when I DMed them.

Here's the issue.

The releasing of information should be a

rule book first.

Then the locations of the semifinal

second.

I'm going to need you to stop trying

to apply logic to how any of this

goes on.

We're so excited that CrossFit's telling

us anything this early.

We're kind of forgiving them on the order.

Yeah.

But it's created all this confusion,

and that's why Holly put up that Google

Doc with everything she can find so that

we can sort it out the best we

can at this point.

But hopefully we get a rule book soon.

So.

Wishing one hand and pooping other one.

Scott,

you tell me which one fills up first.

Generally,

the rule book has come out first part

of December.

We're not that far away from the first

part of December.

No, we are not.

And then hopefully when that comes out,

we can then put all the puzzle pieces

together in the Google document so you

guys can have that.

And then you can...

with all the links to wherever you need

to see the source document.

So, yeah.

And I say we,

and I have very little to do with

that.

I just cheer Holly on.

Go, Holly.

She does fantastic.

She is amazing.

I cannot express that enough.

too much or too many times she is

amazing and i just love the fact that

i don't even have to give her any

information she just keeps spitting out

information i love that i'm sorry i posted

so much stuff yeah that was my favorite

hey bro stop apologizing to me you are

incredible keep doing what you do stop

apologizing to me for making my channel

better please stop doing that

All right, guys,

I need to get back to work.

I got to write a document.

So with that, it's been fun today.

Didn't get to the hall of fame topic

that I would wanted to revisit today with

you.

So maybe we'll do that later in the

week.

We'll see.

But with that,

we'll see everybody tomorrow on lunch with

the Clydesdale.

Bye guys.